Episode 3: Picking Our People & the Power of Creative Outlets with Jordan Hirsch

If you struggle to fit creativity and art-making into your life on top of paid work and family responsibilities, this episode is for you.

The two of us performing improv together

Welcome to The Husband Episode. I figure, I talk about Jordan a lot, so I might as well introduce him to y’all before we go much further together on this podcast journey!

In this conversation Jordan shares his personal journey as an artist who grew up thinking a job could give you money or happiness, but never both. From improv comedy to music, he shares how creativity fuels the rest of his life. And he explains why the structured challenge and supportive community of February Album Writing Month (FAWM) has been a lifeline.

Together, we reflect on the difference between finding meaning in the work we do and finding meaning in our relationships with coworkers. We also trace the winding path of our relationship—from high school drama club crushes and early fandom litmus tests (The Simpsons! Robert Altman’s The Player!) to co-parenting, co-creating, and supporting each other’s creative lives.

The conversation closes with Jordan’s powerful reminder about naming what’s true—and an unlikely recommendation for one of the “best worst” horror films ever made.It’s a warm, funny, and deeply human conversation between two people who know each other best—and who both give a damn.

What we talk about

  • Our origin story: from high school drama club to marriage

  • Early crushes, fandoms, and the near-dealbreaker of The Simpsons

  • Pop culture as a filter for identity and friendships

  • Soap operas, Santa Barbara, and my lifelong obsession with stories

  • Differing views on the meaning of meaningful work

  • Jordan’s improv years in DC and New York, including Gas Station Horror and Vox Pop

  • Collaborating on music-making across states and decades-long friendships

  • Balancing paid work, parenting, and creativity

  • Jordan’s closing wisdom: The power of naming what’s true

Mentioned in the episode

About Jordan Hirsch

Check out Jordan’s music, his coaching, and more.

Jordan in his native habitat, i.e. his office/music studio/horror movie paraphernalia lair

Jordan Hirsch is a presentation and leadership coach, a playful facilitator, an improviser, a musician, a dad, a cyclist, a horror movie enthusiast, and the very lucky husband* of Amanda Hirsch.

Through his coaching work, Jordan helps leaders communicate with authentic confidence and stretch into new roles. He helps teams work together better by teaching them how to play together. And he always makes sure to bring the fun, especially when helping his clients tackle hard challenges. He also bakes a mean sourdough.

*Written by Jordan, not Amanda’s attempt at self-aggrandizement

Jordan’s give-a-damn shout-out to an organization he wishes more people knew about:

The Global Play Brigade, an international community of volunteer play and performance activists who believe that integrating play – improvisation tools – into everyday life and work is vital for creating hope, possibility, emotional well-being, and development. Global Play Brigade has members from 100 countries, with their strongest presence in Argentina, Brazil, the United States, Nigeria, India, and China.

Amanda Hirsch

Storytelling for people who give a damn

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